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		<title>By: vivin</title>
		<link>http://vivin.net/2008/12/28/there-is-no-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>vivin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I&#039;m not that surprised, really. The UI doesn&#039;t look very different from Vista, except for the task bar and boot-screen (based on my 20-minute test-drive). I&#039;ve heard it runs a lot faster on machines that can&#039;t even run Vista that well. So I guess they removed a lot of extraneous crap out of the OS. 

Google Apps may not be as full-featured as Office, but it&#039;s still convenient. I find it interesting that he openly mentioned OpenOffice and StarOffice and that he considers them to be competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I&#8217;m not that surprised, really. The UI doesn&#8217;t look very different from Vista, except for the task bar and boot-screen (based on my 20-minute test-drive). I&#8217;ve heard it runs a lot faster on machines that can&#8217;t even run Vista that well. So I guess they removed a lot of extraneous crap out of the OS. </p>
<p>Google Apps may not be as full-featured as Office, but it&#8217;s still convenient. I find it interesting that he openly mentioned OpenOffice and StarOffice and that he considers them to be competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://vivin.net/2008/12/28/there-is-no-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hadn&#039;t seen this quote before... &lt;a target = &quot;_blank&quot; href = &quot;http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=10464&quot;&gt;&quot;Windows 7 will be Vista, but a lot better&quot; - Steve Ballmer&lt;/a&gt;

Hmmm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hadn&#8217;t seen this quote before&#8230; <a target = "_blank" href = "http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=10464">&#34;Windows 7 will be Vista, but a lot better&#34; &#8211; Steve Ballmer</a></p>
<p>Hmmm?</p>
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		<title>By: vivin</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chris,

Thanks for the link to the article! Pretty interesting stuff. I heard that Microsoft was pushing for an earlier release - perhaps as early as March of &#039;09. 

I&#039;m also hoping that Windows 7 does turn out to be better than than Vista. Although to be honest, I haven&#039;t had near the number of problems with Vista that I hear about. I did feel it was a little slow though. I&#039;m currently playing around with the beta. I&#039;m actually pleasantly surprised. I have been playing around with the beta (I guess it&#039;s shady, but I really wanted to give it a try heh) and I have to say I am pleasantly surprised. I&#039;m running it on a system with a P4, 3.4Ghz and 3Gb RAM. The installation was &lt;em&gt;fast&lt;/em&gt;, and on initial startup, Windows 7 went out and found the appropriate drivers for most of my stuff, including my nVidia video card and my Audigy sound card. It also seemed quite a bit faster. However, I wasn&#039;t really able to get it to see the workgroup on my network. I have four other (three FreeBSD, one Linux) machines on a Samba workgroup that XP sees fine. 

I&#039;ll play with it more once I get back from my New Years holidays and maybe write up a quick review. If anything, I hope the Vista debacle has made Microsoft sit up and take notice. I really hope it forces them to think about security and interoperability more, especially now that Apple is getting market and mindshare, and with (Ubuntu) Linux being a decent alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to the article! Pretty interesting stuff. I heard that Microsoft was pushing for an earlier release &#8211; perhaps as early as March of &#8217;09. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also hoping that Windows 7 does turn out to be better than than Vista. Although to be honest, I haven&#8217;t had near the number of problems with Vista that I hear about. I did feel it was a little slow though. I&#8217;m currently playing around with the beta. I&#8217;m actually pleasantly surprised. I have been playing around with the beta (I guess it&#8217;s shady, but I really wanted to give it a try heh) and I have to say I am pleasantly surprised. I&#8217;m running it on a system with a P4, 3.4Ghz and 3Gb RAM. The installation was <em>fast</em>, and on initial startup, Windows 7 went out and found the appropriate drivers for most of my stuff, including my nVidia video card and my Audigy sound card. It also seemed quite a bit faster. However, I wasn&#8217;t really able to get it to see the workgroup on my network. I have four other (three FreeBSD, one Linux) machines on a Samba workgroup that XP sees fine. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll play with it more once I get back from my New Years holidays and maybe write up a quick review. If anything, I hope the Vista debacle has made Microsoft sit up and take notice. I really hope it forces them to think about security and interoperability more, especially now that Apple is getting market and mindshare, and with (Ubuntu) Linux being a decent alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://vivin.net/2008/12/28/there-is-no-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article, http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=361, has some nice charts showing the number of days between releases. It assumes that Win7 will be released Sept 30, 2009. The article is pretty old (Jan 08), but the charts are worthwhile I think. From what I read the other day from another source I think a Sept 09 release is a pretty good estimate, so this shows development time is almost 1000 days since Vista RTM, maybe he should have included Vista SP1 on the chart though, which was Feb 4, 2008. Considering he listed XP SP2 as a release I think its valid to list Vista SP1 as a release as well... this greatly reduces the development time and brings up the concern you have. I really hope Win7 is a successor of Vista and brings something new to the table, but my next computer purchase is still a MacBook Pro :)

Also just to note, I&#039;m not a fanboy of any OS, I enjoy and use them all (Win, OSX, Linux) for different purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article, <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=361" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=361</a>, has some nice charts showing the number of days between releases. It assumes that Win7 will be released Sept 30, 2009. The article is pretty old (Jan 08), but the charts are worthwhile I think. From what I read the other day from another source I think a Sept 09 release is a pretty good estimate, so this shows development time is almost 1000 days since Vista RTM, maybe he should have included Vista SP1 on the chart though, which was Feb 4, 2008. Considering he listed XP SP2 as a release I think its valid to list Vista SP1 as a release as well&#8230; this greatly reduces the development time and brings up the concern you have. I really hope Win7 is a successor of Vista and brings something new to the table, but my next computer purchase is still a MacBook Pro <img src='http://vivin.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also just to note, I&#8217;m not a fanboy of any OS, I enjoy and use them all (Win, OSX, Linux) for different purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: vivin</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cody,

Looking at &lt;a target = &quot;_blank&quot; href = &quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_7&quot;&gt;Features to Windows 7&lt;/a&gt; on Wikipedia, I don&#039;t see any major changes to the kernel. Windows 7 does use NTFS and it will install to an NTFS partition without any problems. What Windows 7 has is &lt;em&gt;support&lt;/em&gt; for new filesystems.

I&#039;m just saying that considered MS&#039;s previous track record I find it highly unlikely that they&#039;ll come up with something brand spanking new, this fast. It&#039;s more like a 95-&gt;98 shift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cody,</p>
<p>Looking at <a target = "_blank" href = "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_7">Features to Windows 7</a> on Wikipedia, I don&#8217;t see any major changes to the kernel. Windows 7 does use NTFS and it will install to an NTFS partition without any problems. What Windows 7 has is <em>support</em> for new filesystems.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just saying that considered MS&#8217;s previous track record I find it highly unlikely that they&#8217;ll come up with something brand spanking new, this fast. It&#8217;s more like a 95-&#62;98 shift.</p>
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		<title>By: Cody</title>
		<link>http://vivin.net/2008/12/28/there-is-no-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is not Vista SP3. it is built on the Vista kernel, yes. but XP is built on the windows 2000 kernel and is that the same OS? for one thing, Windows 7 doesn&#039;t even use NTFS (it can but it won&#039;t on most machines).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is not Vista SP3. it is built on the Vista kernel, yes. but XP is built on the windows 2000 kernel and is that the same OS? for one thing, Windows 7 doesn&#8217;t even use NTFS (it can but it won&#8217;t on most machines).</p>
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