Comments on: Where has all the good music gone? http://vivin.net/2008/12/25/where-has-all-the-good-music-gone/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss random musings of just another computer nerd Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:22:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: vivin http://vivin.net/2008/12/25/where-has-all-the-good-music-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-394 vivin Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:53:00 +0000 http://vivin.net/?p=396#comment-394 @Bodrell: Yeah, the analysis is pretty amazing! I had no idea there was so much depth to it. I got into Pink Floyd later in my teen years (this was in the late 90's), so it was many years after they came out. I'm pretty sure they sound good chemically enhanced! :) I figured Honey's bossiness came from her Jack-Russell half, but I have read that Heelers also tend to be pretty bossy. I figured that her previous owners probably didn't socialize her much with other dogs. I've noticed Honey is pretty agile; she is a little on the chubby side at the moment and apparently it has to do with an underactive thyroid, but that hasn't stopped her from being active or jumping on to high places! She loves being chased too. So Fiona mothered a kitten? Wow that's awesome! Another question - does Fiona hate water? Honey does. She goes out of her way to make sure she's as far away from any water as possible! I don't mind hearing about dogs! I love them haha! Do you write books or articles about them? @Bodrell:

Yeah, the analysis is pretty amazing! I had no idea there was so much depth to it. I got into Pink Floyd later in my teen years (this was in the late 90′s), so it was many years after they came out. I’m pretty sure they sound good chemically enhanced! :)

I figured Honey’s bossiness came from her Jack-Russell half, but I have read that Heelers also tend to be pretty bossy. I figured that her previous owners probably didn’t socialize her much with other dogs. I’ve noticed Honey is pretty agile; she is a little on the chubby side at the moment and apparently it has to do with an underactive thyroid, but that hasn’t stopped her from being active or jumping on to high places! She loves being chased too.

So Fiona mothered a kitten? Wow that’s awesome! Another question – does Fiona hate water? Honey does. She goes out of her way to make sure she’s as far away from any water as possible! I don’t mind hearing about dogs! I love them haha! Do you write books or articles about them?

]]> By: Bodrell http://vivin.net/2008/12/25/where-has-all-the-good-music-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-393 Bodrell Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:14:25 +0000 http://vivin.net/?p=396#comment-393 BTW, wow @ the analysis of Comfortably Numb. Thank you for that - I saved the site. I'm old enough to have listened to Floyd chemically enhanced, when their music was brand new. :) Loved a lot of 80s and 90s music! Bleh to current popular music though. Too commercial, no innovation. I probably need to find a good alternative radio station to hear good current music. Honey is a mix of two dogs prone to be aggressive and bossy with other dogs, like my Fiona, so not surprising. A lot depends on early experiences. Mine was a pup from a shelter, my Rottweilers helped "raise" her and I also have four cats. She has learned not to pester them too much, and mothered the orphaned kitten. I got Fiona for an agility (dog sport) prospect and she is doing awesome with that. So she's had a lot of early training, which helps. I call her my "herding terrier." Or just The Little Spotted Dog. (Don't get me started on dogs; I write about them for a living.) BTW, wow @ the analysis of Comfortably Numb. Thank you for that – I saved the site. I’m old enough to have listened to Floyd chemically enhanced, when their music was brand new. :)
Loved a lot of 80s and 90s music! Bleh to current popular music though. Too commercial, no innovation. I probably need to find a good alternative radio station to hear good current music.
Honey is a mix of two dogs prone to be aggressive and bossy with other dogs, like my Fiona, so not surprising. A lot depends on early experiences. Mine was a pup from a shelter, my Rottweilers helped "raise" her and I also have four cats. She has learned not to pester them too much, and mothered the orphaned kitten. I got Fiona for an agility (dog sport) prospect and she is doing awesome with that. So she’s had a lot of early training, which helps. I call her my "herding terrier." Or just The Little Spotted Dog.
(Don’t get me started on dogs; I write about them for a living.)

]]> By: vivin http://vivin.net/2008/12/25/where-has-all-the-good-music-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-392 vivin Sat, 27 Dec 2008 06:25:53 +0000 http://vivin.net/?p=396#comment-392 @sadhu: The concept of rāgas is similar to "modes" in Western Music. A rāga is a set of notes or musical events. A piece that conforms to this set of notes/musical events is said to be in that rāga. I'm not sure whether there is term for a variation of a particular rāga. However, there is a <a target = "_blank" href = "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnatic_music#Raga_system">system</a> that defines the various rāgas. @Saroj: Haha I'm glad! @Bodrell: Wow, small world! Yeah, the picture of the dog in Wikipedia is my sister's dog Honey. She's a Red Heeler-Jack Russell Terrier mix too! She was originally my dog, but I gave her to my sister when I deployed to Iraq three years ago. I saw that picture of your dog and she looks remarkably similar to my sister's! How is she with other dogs? We got ours from the animal shelter (she was abandoned) when she was 2. She loves to be around people, but she's not very friendly around other dogs; takes her a while to get used to them and she is kinda jealous too. But for some reason, she loves cats! Haha, yeah! Popular music is terrible these days unfortunately! @sadhu:

The concept of rāgas is similar to "modes" in Western Music. A rāga is a set of notes or musical events. A piece that conforms to this set of notes/musical events is said to be in that rāga. I’m not sure whether there is term for a variation of a particular rāga. However, there is a system that defines the various rāgas.

@Saroj:

Haha I’m glad!

@Bodrell:

Wow, small world! Yeah, the picture of the dog in Wikipedia is my sister’s dog Honey. She’s a Red Heeler-Jack Russell Terrier mix too! She was originally my dog, but I gave her to my sister when I deployed to Iraq three years ago. I saw that picture of your dog and she looks remarkably similar to my sister’s! How is she with other dogs? We got ours from the animal shelter (she was abandoned) when she was 2. She loves to be around people, but she’s not very friendly around other dogs; takes her a while to get used to them and she is kinda jealous too. But for some reason, she loves cats!

Haha, yeah! Popular music is terrible these days unfortunately!

]]> By: Bodrell http://vivin.net/2008/12/25/where-has-all-the-good-music-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-391 Bodrell Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:27:33 +0000 http://vivin.net/?p=396#comment-391 Found you through Wikipedia - I have a female Red Heeler x Jack Russell terrier that looks VERY much like your dog! http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2898043560041397343TZbNBF That gave me a double take when I saw the picture of yours. I agree with you about the music too. :) Popular music since the turn of the century is blah. Found you through Wikipedia – I have a female Red Heeler x Jack Russell terrier that looks VERY much like your dog!
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2898043560041397343TZbNBF

That gave me a double take when I saw the picture of yours.
I agree with you about the music too. :) Popular music since the turn of the century is blah.

]]> By: Saroj Kunnakkat http://vivin.net/2008/12/25/where-has-all-the-good-music-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-390 Saroj Kunnakkat Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:15:00 +0000 http://vivin.net/?p=396#comment-390 Haha Sunil will be psyched you cited his blog post. :p Haha Sunil will be psyched you cited his blog post. :p

]]> By: sadhu http://vivin.net/2008/12/25/where-has-all-the-good-music-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-387 sadhu Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:31:00 +0000 http://vivin.net/?p=396#comment-387 maybe the classical indian notion of raagas are more universal than we previously thought- basically that there are a set number of basic melodies, tunes, progression of notes and that nearly all songs are based on a known raga, or a slight variation of one- but of course, new ragas are constantly discovered. I have know idea what the difference between a new raaga and a variation of an existing raga is told- viv, would you be able to ask your mom? maybe the classical indian notion of raagas are more universal than we previously thought- basically that there are a set number of basic melodies, tunes, progression of notes and that nearly all songs are based on a known raga, or a slight variation of one- but of course, new ragas are constantly discovered. I have know idea what the difference between a new raaga and a variation of an existing raga is told- viv, would you be able to ask your mom?

]]> By: vivin http://vivin.net/2008/12/25/where-has-all-the-good-music-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-389 vivin Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:59:49 +0000 http://vivin.net/?p=396#comment-389 Wow Sheehan, I had no idea. I also had a look at <a target = "_blank" href = "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEGGFJLpbu4">this</a> analysis (based on music theory) and it shows how similar the songs are. If it was blatant plagiarism on Coldplay's part, I'd be very surprised, because I think they do pretty well on their own. On the issue of chord-progression though, there are a bunch of songs that use the exact same chord-progression. But I guess the added factir is that the meter is almost exactly the same as well. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Wow Sheehan, I had no idea. I also had a look at this analysis (based on music theory) and it shows how similar the songs are. If it was blatant plagiarism on Coldplay’s part, I’d be very surprised, because I think they do pretty well on their own.

On the issue of chord-progression though, there are a bunch of songs that use the exact same chord-progression. But I guess the added factir is that the meter is almost exactly the same as well. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.

]]> By: sheehan http://vivin.net/2008/12/25/where-has-all-the-good-music-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-388 sheehan Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:42:37 +0000 http://vivin.net/?p=396#comment-388 <a target = "_blank" href = "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xNQZHuAQJ8">link text</a> you may be surprised how coldplay can rip a song off, and make it work in a pop culture. link text
you may be surprised how coldplay can rip a song off, and make it work in a pop culture.

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